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Rich Dubroff

Catching up with former Oriole Ken Singleton

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Ken Singleton played with the Orioles from 1975-1984. He’s in the top 10 in most career hitting categories and holds the team record with 10 consecutive hits. Earlier this month, Singleton, 74, announced his retirement after broadcasting New York Yankees games for the past 25 years. He still lives in the Baltimore area. The interview has been edited for brevity.

Question: Why did you decide now was the time to retire?

Singleton: “It’s been coming for the last few years. I’ve been trying to retire the last three years, but the last two, my boss talked me out of it. My boss is very persuasive and, on social media, the Yankees fans didn’t want me to leave. They didn’t want me to leave this year, either. It got to the point where I said to myself, ‘I’m not going to stay up there forever.’ As you get older, your priorities change, so just about everything I’ve needed to do in this game, I’ve done. I’ve played in All-Star games and World Series and championship series. As a broadcaster, I’ve done that, too. I just didn’t see there was anything more for me to do up in the booth. You’ve got to stop sometime.

“The amount of time I was doing games wasn’t all that many; it gave me insight into what retirement was going to be like. It’s not bad. I like waking up in the morning knowing that the day is mine to do with it what I want to do with it … I hang out with the guys and I play golf all the time, and my game has gotten better because I don’t have to leave town for a week.

“I’ve got grandkids now who are older and playing sports. I like to see them. Last weekend, I went up to New Jersey where they live to see them and saw my grandson quarterback a 20-0 win. I saw my granddaughter … Her [soccer] team won, 2-0.”

Q: You worked for the Yankees longer than you played for the Orioles. Do you still think of yourself as an Oriole?

A: “When I first started doing Yankees games, Yankees fans were quick to remind me I played for the Orioles … They’d always be on Twitter: ‘Who do you think he’s rooting for?’

“My playing days and my broadcasting days are separate in my mind. There was nothing like being an Orioles as a player. We used to have a saying: ‘It’s great to be young and an Oriole.’ Those were my playing days. One thing I found over the years doing Yankees games, Yankees fans loved to hear stories about Earl Weaver. They couldn’t get enough of them. They loved to hear those stories about Earl because they never experienced him first-hand. I was the one who could bring that to them, and they loved it.

“When I first started doing Yankees games, Oriole fans were upset. When I was doing games in Montreal for 12 years, they didn’t seem to mind that so much … It was a better job. You’re working in New York. That’s top of the line. I’m very thankful to George Steinbrenner because it’s not every owner that would let a broadcaster come in that didn’t play for his team and, in his own words said: ‘You did a lot of bad things to us. You and that Eddie Murray guy.’ After a while, he realized he made the right call … It was great to work for them. People would ask: ‘Are you a Yankee fan?’ My job was a lot easier when they won, and during my 25 years there, our statistician told me we were 694 games over .500. I like bringing good news, and that was a lot of good news. We were there 25 years, and they had a winning record every year. It was a lot of fun to cover a team like that.”

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Q: Do you feel you were overlooked as an Oriole?

A: “As the years have gone by, people have looked at me differently. They look at my stats a little different and what I was able to do. Do I think I was overlooked? It didn’t really matter to me then because I was just doing my job.

“One spring Earl told me he was going to bat Eddie fourth, and he said: ‘Your job is the same. If you don’t hit a home run, get on base so he can hit one.’ I took that seriously because it was my job. On-base percentage wasn’t thought of as it was now, but it was my job. I got on base consistently. [Singleton holds the club record for highest on-base percentage: .438 in 1977].

“Earl knew what it was about because my first year with the Orioles he batted me first, and I’d never done that before. [He had a .415 OBP in 1975.] That stat was kind of overlooked. Now that would be big-time. It didn’t really matter. I just wanted to win games. In the 10 years I was in Baltimore, we had a winning record every year. I had a chance to be a free agent twice and both times I re-signed. I didn’t feel like leaving. I was happy where I was.”

Q: In your career you walked more often than you struck out [1,263/1,246]. Why don’t we see that anymore?

A: “Hitting’s changed. Everybody’s looking to launch the ball, to hit the ball in the air, which is OK. With these type of swings you’re getting now and as hard as pitchers throw now, there are more hard throwers now than when I was playing. It’s obvious and they can keep the fastball elevated around the letters or just below and with the launch angle swings, it’s very hard to hit that pitch, especially guys throwing upwards of 100, it’s hard to get on top of it.

“In my day, there were more sinker/slider-type pitchers. They were trying to keep the ball down, down and away. Home runs are good and Earl loved them, but he liked guys that could hit and get on base, too. Earl’s favorite was the three-run homer. It wasn’t the solo shot. There were more well-rounded hitters back in the day, guys who could hit home runs and wouldn’t strike out as much … This endless walking up and walking back to the dugout, sometimes it makes the game a little boring to me, but I realize there are more hard throwers.”

Q: Do you like today’s game?

A: “I still like it because I think the players are the best they’ve ever been. I just think they’re in better condition. They all have their dietitians and their trainers. They’re in good shape. I can’t understand all these injuries, but they happen. In a way, I think the players are overtrained. They’re wound too tight. Baseball is a game of stops and starts, real quick movements, swinging as quick as you can, not as hard as you can, but as quickly as you can, and sometimes these tight muscles, they just pop. You had to be as fluid as you can be.

“I don’t know about the pitchers and the Tommy John. Maybe because everybody’s throwing so hard, as hard as you can, as long as you can as opposed to Scott McGregor or even [Jim] Palmer. You’re pitching as opposed to throwing the ball as hard as you can.

“The game has changed financially. There’s a lot more money in it. I’m happy for that. I think that I played with the best generation of players because we were willing to not play [in 1981] to make things better for all of us. We did it. For these future ballplayers and guys who are playing now, I hope they appreciate it because when somebody’s making $35 million or $40 million a year, it wasn’t always that way.”

Q: Even though you worked for the Yankees, you live here. Do you follow the Orioles closely?

A: “Oh, yeah, of course. If I wasn’t away working and the Yankees weren’t playing, I’m going to watch the Orioles because we play them 19 games because most of them are games I’m going to do. I’ve gotten to know the Orioles backwards and forwards, almost as well as I know the Yankees. Even when I’m watching a Yankees game, in between innings, I would flip over to the Orioles games to see what’s going on with them.”

Q: Do you think the Orioles are on the right path?

A: “If they’re supposedly following what happened in Houston, you’d have to say yes because we see where Houston is now. I think the problem for the Orioles is they’re in the toughest division in all of baseball. You had four teams ahead of them that won 90 games or more. That’s going to be tough to overcome even if they become a viable contender. It’s going to be tough. So far when you look at how things have played out in the division, the team that has played the best against the Orioles has won the division. You go to 2018, and the Red Sox were 16-3 against the Orioles, and they won the division. In 2019, the Yankees were 17-2 against the Orioles. They won the division. This year, the Rays were 16-1 against the Orioles, and they won the division. In a lot of ways, as poorly as the Orioles have played, they hold the key to who wins the Eastern Division.

“It will probably continue next year, too, but I think their outfield is solid. That’s one thing they don’t have to worry about with [Austin] Hays, [Cedric] Mullins and [Anthony] Santander. I know [Ryan] McKenna is a good defensive outfielder, but he hasn’t hit much yet.

“Supposedly they have some guys in the minors. Their minor league system is rated higher. The whole key to the Orioles is the pitching. I know [Adley] Rutschman should be playing in the big leagues next year. That will be a major improvement. They just have to decide who’s going to be the backup. Maybe they need a solid infielder. Maybe they need one of their draft picks to come through … I think Rutschman is ready if you ask me. If he has a good spring, he should make the team. They shouldn’t fool around with service time. Just play him. I don’t think the fans would be happy if the Orioles sent him out the first month to mess with his service time. They’ve waited long enough. They want players. They want young players. If it was up to me, he’d be on the team.”

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31 Comments

31 Comments

  1. HmmmImNotSoSureAboutThat

    October 21, 2021 at 7:51 am

    Thanks Rich, great interview – loved Ken Singleton when he played with the Orioles and he seems to a high character guy. Nice to hear from Ken, hope the O’s listen to his words about Rutschman.

    • Rich Dubroff

      October 21, 2021 at 8:34 am

      Thank you, Joe. I think service time manipulation will be negotiated out of the coming CBA.

    • Boog Robinson Robinson

      October 21, 2021 at 8:43 am

      You’re aging yourself Joe. Never would have guess you to be old enough to remember Singleton.

      • HmmmImNotSoSureAboutThat

        October 21, 2021 at 1:53 pm

        I am annoying 58 year old, now get off my lawn BRR 😉

  2. cedar

    October 21, 2021 at 7:57 am

    Thanks for sharing this interview with Ken Singleton! We both joined the O’s around the same time. He as a player, and I, as a 9 year old fan. I always enjoyed Kenny’s day-to-day play, and feel that is one reason why he was overlooked. He was the foundation that allowed his team to have those winning records year after year. I was also one of those that felt “betrayed” when he began broadcasting Yankee games and always wondered if there was ever an attempt to bring him to the Orioles broadcast team.

    • Rich Dubroff

      October 21, 2021 at 8:35 am

      Thank you, Cedar.

  3. Northern Oriole

    October 21, 2021 at 8:00 am

    Great interview! I grew up not so much watching him as an Oriole, but doing Expos broadcasts and he and Dave Van Horne were as good as anyone. Such a classy guy and a great player. I love the quote about it being great to be young and an Oriole; such a contrast to how the team is increasingly seen since it was one of the most respected franchises. It’s also a great point about the AL East; even an average team would have no chance. And if you’re trotting out a AAA pitching staff it’s completely hopeless. We’ll have a good catcher soon and G. Rodriquez looks good, but it still seems like forever until the Orioles can compete.

    • Rich Dubroff

      October 21, 2021 at 8:36 am

      Thank you, Northern Oriole.

  4. TxBirdFan

    October 21, 2021 at 8:01 am

    Thanks for the great interview Rich! I always thought Kenny was undervalued and overlooked when he was key to those teams back then. Nowadays it’s hard to relate to the O’s having 10+ years of consecutive winning records. He makes a great point about playing in the AL East. We have to learn how to play with the big dogs or go home.

  5. bill-s

    October 21, 2021 at 8:14 am

    As a lifelong Orioles fan who has lived in the New York media market for a long time, it was always miserably difficult to watch Yankees games or listen to them on the radio. But Ken Singleton (and also the Mets broadcasting crew) make the game watchable and more enjoyable. He was a wonderful analyst and will be dearly missed.

    But I also am tired of hearing how hard it is for the Orioles to compete in the AL East. Yes, it’s by far the toughest division in baseball, and probably in all professional sports. But if the Tampa Bay Rays can thrive in this Division, with their modest payroll, terrible ballpark, and poor fan support, there is absolutely no reason why the Orioles can’t.

    • johninbethany

      October 22, 2021 at 10:57 pm

      I agree with you… if Tampa Bay can compete, then there is no excuse for the Orioles.

  6. Boog Robinson Robinson

    October 21, 2021 at 8:40 am

    Best interview this site has ever published. So many great points made in this piece. Well done Rich.

    Kenny SIngleton … one of the best strat-o-matic players ever. In real life,one of the slowest players ever.

    He made taking a walk into an artform. No umpire dared ring that man up looking.

  7. Roenickstein

    October 21, 2021 at 8:59 am

    Nice interview. Loved Singy with the O’s, though he was my sister’s favorite player so naturally he couldn’t be mine. Orioles fans certainly took for granted players like Ken–so solid and reliable. His take on injuries today is interesting and makes sense to me. Players seem so fragile but it does seem they are optimally conditioned as athletes but not necessarily baseball players. Many of them don’t seem to want to play through discomfort either, probably due to the money involved. As far as the Eastern division, yeah the other teams all won over 90 games but 10% of their schedule is against the worst team in baseball! As soon as the O’s start splitting season series with these teams (which WILL start happening), suddenly they won’t be 90 game winners anymore–Toronto won 91 and Boston/NY each won 92. The difference between them being “really good” teams and “just good” teams is basically the Orioles. So Singleton is right that the O’s are the key to who wins.

    • Rich Dubroff

      October 21, 2021 at 10:12 am

      Thank you, Roenickstein.

  8. BalBball

    October 21, 2021 at 9:44 am

    Hi Rich,

    Great Thursday morning wake up article to read. Certainly appreciate Ken’s comments. He speaks from experience, not just throwing something out there. Thanks for doing it and posting it for us.

    Jeff Maynard

    • Rich Dubroff

      October 21, 2021 at 9:51 am

      Thank you, Jeff.

  9. Orial

    October 21, 2021 at 10:36 am

    Good interview Rich. Not being appreciated is a fair question to ask him being that he played in the shadow of Eddie Murray. I also live in the NY area(NJ) so although I do have DIRECTV so I can watch all the O’s games I am forced to watch the Yankees broadcasts on YES and when they’re in Baltimore I hear Ken Singleton. Kind of a hard listen as he showed favoritism to the Yankees(I suppose you can’t bite the hand that feeds you). So as a player and human being he’s much appreciated,as a listen on broadcasts not so much(sour grapes I guess).

  10. BenSch

    October 21, 2021 at 11:25 am

    Always loved Singleton. He was dependable. That’s cool that he still lives in the B’more area. Brooks and Jim too, right? My mom tells me Cal married an Anne Arundel county judge and lives over near Annapolis too.

  11. dlgruber1

    October 21, 2021 at 4:30 pm

    I’ve heard baseball commentators say they believe their should be a place in the baseball Hall of Fame for “life in baseball” achievements. Most are talking about Dusty Baker, who had a very good playing career as well as being a successful manager. If they ever do that then Ken Singleton absolutely belongs as well. It got me to thinking about their playing careers. Feast your eyes on this, it’s truly remarkable how similar they were:
    Singleton Baker
    15 seasons 19 seasons
    2082 games 2039 games
    .282 BA .278 BA
    2029 hits 1981 hits
    246 HRs 242 HRs
    1065 RBIs 1013 RBIs
    317 2B 320 2B
    25 3B 23 3B
    WAR-41.8. WAR 37

    • Rich Dubroff

      October 21, 2021 at 4:58 pm

      Singleton did not get a single Hall of Fame vote in the year he was first eligible, Dave. If Baker goes in, it’s strictly as a manager just as Joe Torre is in as a manager.

    • dlgruber1

      October 21, 2021 at 5:18 pm

      I understand that Rich and Baker probably will get in a a manager. And Singleton may well get in the Broadcasters wing but I was referring to the conversation these people were having about the Hall of Fame having a “life in baseball” award. If that were to happen Singleton would be as deserving as Baker. I was just amazed at how similar there playing careers were.

  12. Icterus fan

    October 21, 2021 at 6:32 pm

    Still very clearly remember getting Singleton’s autograph at Memorial Stadium in 1975 or 1976.
    Also still recall the beautiful batting stance he had, and the habit of picking up three pebbles when getting into the batters box.
    And last but not least, how about the chant of “Come on Ken – hit it in the bullpen”!
    Ah. The memories.

    • Boog Robinson Robinson

      October 21, 2021 at 6:59 pm

      Icky … are youj referring to his right handed stance or his left handed stance?

  13. willmiranda

    October 21, 2021 at 7:51 pm

    Wholeheartedly agree with all the positives about the interview and the man. I’d just add that he has a fabulous voice as an announcer. Also think it would be good, since he’s in town, if we had some more interviews with him in the future.

  14. Bhoffman1

    October 21, 2021 at 8:54 pm

    It’s not funny Rich , Philips strikes out the sides in a all or nothing game for the Dodgers. What’s wrong with our system it’s the same story happening over and over again. Player after player can’t make it here but flourish on much better teams

    • CalsPals

      October 22, 2021 at 7:19 am

      Change in attitude?…attitude reflects leadership, go to a winning team, winning attitude, play for a losing team, losing attitude….professionals are just human…go O’s…

    • willmiranda

      October 22, 2021 at 10:36 am

      I think we always have some players who are not stars but are capable major leaguers (no mean thing) when they are in the right environment, that is, amidst a team on which there are stars and all the players are capable. They are put in situations where they can succeed. Contrary to this, the O’s have no environment, just a situation in constant churn. They eschew signing players of superior ability who can carry the main load, enabling others to be put into situations where they can succeed. Team chemistry has no value because players are repeatedly told that this is their last chance and their only motivation is to beat out the other utility player sitting next to them in the locker room. All year people have been bemoaning the infield, saying we had no options. We could have kept Iglesias and Alberto and been respectable, in my opinion.

  15. johninbethany

    October 22, 2021 at 10:56 pm

    He is always a classy guy….

    “hey Ken, put it in the bullpen”

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