Orioles sit Mancini, Urías again; Success for rookie starters; Hunter Harvey update - BaltimoreBaseball.com

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Orioles sit Mancini, Urías again; Success for rookie starters; Hunter Harvey update

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BALTIMORE—Trey Mancini and Ramón Urías are not in the starting lineup for the third straight game. Manager Brandon Hyde said Wednesday neither is ready to play.

After Monday’s game, Hyde said Mancini was out because of “general soreness,” and that Urías had upper leg soreness.

“Trey’s is in the oblique area, so you have to be careful with it,” Hyde said. “We talk every day and the right thing to do for him is to let it rest. I give him a ton of credit. He stayed in [Sunday’s] game in New York. He did it on his first swing in the last game in New York and he knew how short we were on the bench.

“We were super close to having [Ryan] McKenna play second base and [Kelvin] Gutiérrez playing first base with the lead in New York, so for him to stay in the ballgame … Fortunately, he walked a couple of times after that to not make it worse. We talk every day, and right now, it’s not ready for him to start the game.”

Without Urías, Gutiérrez is playing third, Jorge Mateo is at shortstop and Jahmai Jones is at second base.

“Ramón’s been dealing with his leg for a couple of months now,” Hyde said. “It just kind of grabbed on him in New York. It’s still a little bit sore. We’ll see how it is tomorrow.”

The infield alignment isn’t one Hyde could foresee.

“If you asked in spring training what our infield was going to look like in September, I don’t think you were going to see Gutiérrez, Mateo, Jones and [Ryan] Mountcastle at first,” Hyde said.

Even with a 28-man roster, the Orioles don’t have an extra infielder.


“We’re giving guys, like we have for a few years now, an opportunity to see if they can solidify themselves and be a big league player,” Hyde said. “Mateo’s opening eyes right now. He’s playing banged up, too. You saw him swing the bat gingerly in New York. He’s not running 100 percent. Give him credit for sticking it out and wanting to be in the lineup and trying  to play with not feeling great.

“We’re giving Jam Jones an opportunity, see what he can do. The same with Gutiérrez as well with others. Hopefully, these guys can stick in the big leagues.”

Rookie starters: Matt Harvey is starting Wednesday’s game, and he’s the first veteran to start since Friday night.

Chris Ellis, Keegan Akin, Zac Lowther and Alexander Wells started in succession and, according to STATS, it was the first time the Orioles had a winning record (3-1) in games started by four or more rookies.

The team record for most consecutive games started by rookies is seven from September 21-27, 2008. The Orioles were 1-6 in those games.

Hyde said that he is looking to pitch Mike Baumann, who got the win in his major league debut on Tuesday, in long relief again. Baumann allowed an unearned run on two hits in 3 2/3 innings after he entered the game in the fifth behind Wells.

“We’re going to do an extended bullpen appearance and bring him in after a clean inning and give us some innings out of the pen that way,” Hyde said.

Hyde said that he doesn’t know if Wells will stay in the rotation or go to the bullpen. The Orioles will need an extra starter for Saturday’s doubleheader with Toronto and can add a 29th player.

Hyde says he’s not sure if the team will bring up a starter for the doubleheader or if it will be a pitcher on the team.

Waiting on Hunter Harvey: The Orioles moved right-hander Hunter Harvey from the 10-day to 60-day injured list on Tuesday. Harvey, who was originally on the injured list because of  a strained right lat is now sidelined because of a right triceps strain.

Hyde said that Harvey, who’s at Triple-A Norfolk, is not necessarily done pitching in 2021.

“I don’t know if it’s season-ending or not,” Hyde said. “I think he’s playing catch today, and if that goes well, maybe a side after that and back into game action. It’s just reevaluating him, reevaluating him after he plays catch.”

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  1. Birdman

    September 8, 2021 at 6:35 pm

    Learning that Ramon Urias has been playing with an injury for the past couple of months makes his performance this season all the more impressive.

    • Icterus fan

      September 8, 2021 at 7:13 pm

      Yeah, I can see that.
      Still, at least offensively 7 HR and 32 RBI over 242 AB isn’t much of a performance. His .273 BA isn’t bad, but it begs the question of whether this injury is the reason for his performance?
      If that’s the case, then his stock should rise considerably in 2022 assuming he heals. I sure hope so.

  2. 420GameWinners

    September 8, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    Memo to Hunter “The Always Hurt” Harvey: Hang it up.

  3. millboy

    September 8, 2021 at 7:21 pm

    I think it’s time to cut bait with Hunter Harvey…potential can only take you so far

  4. Letsgetmikey

    September 8, 2021 at 8:07 pm

    I’m hoping someone can answer a question for me. I attended my first MiLB game this year ( Baysox/Senators) and noticed there was no infield shifts. Is shifting illegal in the minors?

    • Boog Robinson Robinson

      September 8, 2021 at 8:44 pm

      I think it’s more of a gentleman’s agreement than a rule.

      • Letsgetmikey

        September 8, 2021 at 8:47 pm


      • Rich Dubroff

        September 8, 2021 at 9:24 pm

        Incorrect, as an agreement with MLB, Double-A leagues are experimenting with the no-shift rule during the second half of the season, Ken.

    • Rich Dubroff

      September 8, 2021 at 9:20 pm

      Michael, shifts have been banned in Double-A in the second half of the season as an experiment.

      • Letsgetmikey

        September 8, 2021 at 11:26 pm

        Thank you Rich

  5. 420GameWinners

    September 8, 2021 at 8:13 pm

    Rich, is there any way you can tell me how long Hunter Harvey has been in the Orioles’ organization and of that time how much of it has been on the DL or in rehab? It seems like this guy is forever hurt. Thanks.

    • Rich Dubroff

      September 8, 2021 at 9:22 pm

      Hunter Harvey has pitched in 107 games in the majors and minors since 2013. Here’s his baseballreference.com page


      • Buzz1979

        September 8, 2021 at 9:42 pm

        Nolan Reimold was more durable!

        • The Bird1

          September 8, 2021 at 10:27 pm

          So was Bill Walton and Joe Namath.

          • Boog Robinson Robinson

            September 8, 2021 at 10:33 pm

            Not fair to Namath. Yes he was always hurt, but he still took the field most every game, usually with a surgeon or two hanging onto his knees.

            I was never a Jet fan, but my god I loved Joe Namath.

  6. Boog Robinson Robinson

    September 8, 2021 at 8:49 pm

    So…I’m watching the game tonite, and it looks like there are even less fans in the stands tonite, than last.

    Using last night’s announced attendance of 4981 as he over/under line…. I’m taking the under for $100.

    Drink RC

    • Buzz1979

      September 8, 2021 at 9:12 pm

      And Roch still refers to it as a crowd…LOL!!!

    • Icterus fan

      September 8, 2021 at 9:14 pm

      It’s so vacant there, you can clearly hear the players yelling from the dug out, and the coaching staff too.

    • Rich Dubroff

      September 8, 2021 at 9:25 pm

      Sixteen fewer tonight.

      • Boog Robinson Robinson

        September 8, 2021 at 10:29 pm

        Probably about the same number of Michael Baumann’s family members. 🙂

    • CalsPals

      September 9, 2021 at 5:20 pm

      One less rat…go O’s…

  7. Buzz1979

    September 8, 2021 at 9:11 pm

    Making a fringe journeyman look like Cy Young…AGAIN! Enough of Harvey this year, lets see the kids!

  8. dlgruber1

    September 8, 2021 at 10:30 pm

    I hope all those 4900 stayed. I can’t remember the last time ANY Oriole team put up a 9 spot when trailing 5-0 in bottom 8.

  9. Boog Robinson Robinson

    September 8, 2021 at 10:34 pm

    Fun 8th inning ‘eh boys?
    But where the hell is Wells in the 9th?

  10. Buzz1979

    September 8, 2021 at 10:53 pm

    Tate, as Sgt Thomas Highway would say “You ain’t it!”

    • Boog Robinson Robinson

      September 9, 2021 at 7:14 am

      That’s Gunny Sgt. to you boy! (you still don’t make sense with these inane comments sometimes)

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