Orioles' Means has a tired arm and won't start Sunday in Philadelphia - BaltimoreBaseball.com

Rich Dubroff

Orioles’ Means has a tired arm and won’t start Sunday in Philadelphia

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John Means, who was set to start Sunday’s first exhibition game in Philadelphia, has been scratched with what Orioles manager Brandon Hyde called “a little bit of a dead arm, a little bit of fatigue.”

Means could still start the Orioles’ opener against Boston in Fenway Park on Friday night, Hyde said.

“We just want to hold him off, just to be sure,” Hyde said in a Saturday video conference call. “That two-month season is the most important thing so we want to be overly cautious with him.”

Hyde says that it’s too early for him to make a decision on deferring Means’ start in Boston.

“The last few days, he just had a little fatigue in his arm,” Hyde said. “We just wanted to hold him. We’re just monitoring day-to-day, and we decided today to have him skip tomorrow and give him a little more rest.”

Hyde said that Means had arm fatigue around midseason last year, when he finished with a 12-11 record and 3.60 ERA.

“We care so much about him that I just want to make sure that we’re taking care of him,” Hyde said. “That we’re doing the right thing for him and that he is with us for two months, such an important part of the rotation.”

Thomas Eshelman will start the game against the Phillies, which will begin at 6:05 p.m. There will be no television or radio coverage.

MASN will televise the Orioles games against the Washington Nationals on Monday and Tuesday. Both will begin at 6:05 p.m.

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  1. CalsPals

    July 18, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    Of course…go O’s…

  2. ClayDal

    July 18, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    The Phillies game won’t be carried live, but will be rebroadcast Monday morning at 10 am on the MLB network If you have the MLB app you can listen to the game live with the Phillies broadcasters.

  3. Boog Robinson Robinson

    July 18, 2020 at 6:32 pm

    Ummmmmmmm…..this ain’t good.

    Arm fatigue? Does elbow pain go along with fatigue?

    We rarely get the truth, or at least the entire truth when a team reports on a pitchers arm’s condition or scratch from a game.

    This ain’t good.

  4. CalsPals

    July 18, 2020 at 6:42 pm

    Haven’t heard anything regarding Cobb, why wouldn’t he pitch against Philadelphia?…go O’s…

    • ClayDal

      July 18, 2020 at 6:53 pm

      Cobb is pitching Monday. That puts him in line to pitch Saturday in Fenway. They could have bumped him up, but it’s only an exhibition game. Unless there is something seriously wrong with Means he should be okay for Friday. With the expanded rosters, starters are probably only going to go 3-4 innings for the first few starts.

    • CalsPals

      July 18, 2020 at 7:13 pm

      If he threw against Philadelphia wouldn’t he be on schedule for opening day, if Means can’t go?…go O’s…

  5. TxBirdFan

    July 18, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    I might be wrong, but I don’t think it’s good to have your top pitcher come down with “a little bit of arm fatigue” with the opener just one week away, especially when starting pitching is our weakest link in a short season. Anyone else getting a little queasy over this announcement?

    • CalsPals

      July 18, 2020 at 8:35 pm

      Unfortunately, I think everyone…go O’s…

    • OriolesNumber1Fan

      July 18, 2020 at 9:41 pm

      TxBirdFan – You’re not wrong and you’re not alone on this subject. Our thin starting pitching has been are weakest link for quite a long time. Even during the Showalter years, it was our bullpen, defense and home run bashers that carried the Orioles through the successful years. I mean, they weren’t bad but they were all pretty much 3 starters. Anyway, here’s hoping Kohl Stewart can turn the corner. I like his stuff. Throws 95 heater plus pretty good off speed stuff. Maybe the lightbulb goes off for him.

  6. OriolesNumber1Fan

    July 18, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    ClayDal, thanks for the update!!! Got it set. Btw, an fyi, I ordered the MLB package for the 60 game season and it’s only $31.99.

  7. dlgruber1

    July 19, 2020 at 12:40 am

    Of course he’s got a “tired arm”. I mean, he’s thrown SO many innings already. I know I sound like an old fogie, but you’ve gotta be kidding me!! I’m old enough to remember Palmer AVERAGING 22 CG’s AND 319 innings from 1975-1977, Wilbur Wood starting a remarkable 49 games in 1972 and pitching 376 innings then in 1973 he started 48 games and pitched 359 innings. I’m sorry but I just don’t wanna hear about a “tired arm”.

  8. CalsPals

    July 19, 2020 at 7:33 am

    Play/pitch the youngens, if Elias doesn’t think they’re ready, take the thinking out of it, let’s see it…everyone says they’re supposed to lose anyway, who cares who does the losing…BUT maybe they’ll embrace their opportunities & surprise people…go O’s…

  9. CalsPals

    July 19, 2020 at 8:01 am

    MLB news says Means is the most indispensable O, not a good way to start w/ your most “indispensable” player out…yikes…go O’s…

  10. Bhoffman1

    July 19, 2020 at 8:11 am

    Already a bad sign. Thomas Eshelman isnt he the guy who a little leaguer throws a better fastball .

    • CalsPals

      July 19, 2020 at 8:38 am

      By pitching Eshelman, the O’s made a mockery of the game, he was horrible 4 months ago & not much better now…bring on the youngens…go O’s…

    • ClayDal

      July 19, 2020 at 11:14 am

      I wouldn’t worry too much about Eshelman. He isn’t on the roster and there is only 1 opening left. Most likely, the Orioles are saving that for a waiver claim. They are not going to remove someone from the roster to make room for him. Eshelman is insurance in case a pitcher goes down with a long term injury and you need a temporary fill in. He can easily be removed from the active roster and pass through waivers. If he gets claimed, no big deal. Oddly enough, Eshelman’s value is he is disposable

    • Bhoffman1

      July 19, 2020 at 5:25 pm

      I hope they waive Mason Williams and a club like Tampa picks him up. Playing Wilkerson or Smith in the outfield is a disgrace . Steward has also shown me nothing

    • ClayDal

      July 19, 2020 at 5:48 pm

      Mason Williams can’t be waived. He isn’t on the roster. They would have to put him on the roster first and if they took him off, he could be waived. As it is now, he is under contract with the Orioles and they can activate him at their pleasure. If the Orioles have no plans for him, he can ask for his release and become a free agent. But I think the Orioles still want him around-just not right this minute

    • Bhoffman1

      July 19, 2020 at 8:39 pm

      Well I’m happy he’s getting a paycheck but if I were him I would ask to be released

    • ClayDal

      July 19, 2020 at 9:00 pm

      Let’s remember Mason Williams was a free agent last winter. He re-signed a minor league contract with the Baltimore Orioles. If he had had a better offer, I’m sure he would have taken it. Not like there was much interest in him

  11. Bhoffman1

    July 19, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    Starting Wilkerson in RF tonight . The laughing stock team of baseball continues

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