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Tap-In Question: Tillman or Jimenez, which one would you have chosen?


It’s playoff time. The Orioles made the October Dance, and now have a 1-in-5 chance to get to the World Series for the first time in 33 years.

All tabs are $19.83, no matter how much you imbibe today.

I have a simple question for you. It’s one of those-second guessing things that will be resolved by about 9:30 tonight.

Until then – or at least until 8:08 p.m. – let the debate rage.

Tillman or Ubaldo?

Orioles manager Buck Showalter chose Chris Tillman to start Tuesday night against the Toronto Blue Jays at Rogers Centre in the one-game, AL Wild Card playoff.

It’s crazy – and a real testament to what he has done in his last seven starts – that Jimenez is in this conversation. And it’s a good one.

Do you go with the team’s best pitcher or the pitcher that is pitching the best?

Showalter is big on track records, and I do think Tillman is the most poised out of the entire rotation, so he won’t put too much pressure on himself in this huge game. To read more of my thoughts and the pertinent stats, you can check out this piece.


But in the Tap Room today, I want to know your thoughts.

Tap-In Question: Would you have chosen Jimenez over Tillman in the Wild Card game? Why?



  1. Boog Robinson Robinson

    October 4, 2016 at 7:26 am

    In my opinion, Tillman has earned it. That, and I understand that Ubaldo is on only 4 days rest. The harder choice would have been Tillman or Gausman if he had been available.

    Jeepers, throw in Bundy, and suddenly, the rotation seems to match up with anyone’s! Who would of thunk it just 2 months ago?

    As far as tonight’s game goes, the bigger questions are:
    1) Is Buck going with Kim & Bourn over the Bull?
    2) Is your Tap Room open tonight? I’m feeling up for some fake beer!?!

    GO O’S !!!!

    • OsFanStuckInNY

      October 4, 2016 at 8:02 am

      Actually, Jiminez would be pitching on regular rest, having gone last Thursday. Tillman has an extra day of rest. As one of those who clamored to DFA Jiminez, I am delighted to eat my words. Does he credit anyone in particular for helping him with this rarely seen turn around in performance? Here’s hoping he starts another 4-6 games as the fairy tale ending goes on!

    • Dan Connolly

      October 4, 2016 at 9:13 am

      1. Gotta think Bourn is still in the mix. And I’d be shocked if Kim isn’t vs RHP. 2. Open all night. Tho the barkeep is gonna be distracted with his day job at night.

    • Dan Connolly

      October 4, 2016 at 9:17 am

      To O’s in NY: He mainly credits his faith in God in the positive attitude to turn him around. The coaches work with him but at his age he just has to find the mechanics that work for him. And only he can do that.

  2. Bancells Moustache

    October 4, 2016 at 9:08 am


    As good as Ubaldo has looked the last month, he’s still Ubaldo Jimenez. The risk of him making his transformation from the wolf back into plain old Michael J Fox is just too great for a winner-take-all scenario. Plus, I love him matching up with Darvish in a game 1 in Arlington.

    One thing that does concern me, as inappropriate as it may be for a Tap Room, I assume everyone saw all the images of the Orioles celebration Sunday. The social media landscape was abuzz with images of Baltimore Orioles pounding Budweiser like frat boys in Panama City, one of the most prominent being… Chris Tillman. I’m certainly not one to moralize on drinking beer, but isn’t Chris the one guy who should have volunteered for designated driver duties Sunday night?

    • Dan Connolly

      October 4, 2016 at 9:15 am

      They have a bus. And a plane. And I’m sure the bus driver was sober as a judge :). And, seriously, I’d say about half a beer is pounded per 10 sprayed. And it’s Budweiser.

      • Bancells Moustache

        October 4, 2016 at 9:31 am

        I realize that no one actually needed Chris Tillman to give them a ride home, Dan. I suppose it’s just me being curmudgeonly and thinking spraying Champagne and Beer, when you finished tied for second place and still have to win a winner take all road game to get in the quarterfinals, is a little ridiculous.

        • Boog Robinson Robinson

          October 4, 2016 at 2:55 pm

          Amen on that Mr. Moustache. A one game playoff does not constitute the playoffs … or something like that. BTW … You Michael J Fox / Wolfman reference is classic. I love reading your stuff.

    • Steve Cockey

      October 4, 2016 at 11:12 am

      Sober as a judge, Dan? Good thing Sidney Ponson wasn’t in the area.

  3. coleenmd

    October 4, 2016 at 10:45 am

    Gotta stick with our ace, so Tillman is the right call.

  4. RagingC

    October 4, 2016 at 11:02 am

    Ubaldo. Buck is always reminding us that momentum is all about the next starter. Tillman hasn’t been good since the shoulder issue started (hopefully it’s better now). Jimenez is the hot hand. Neither has a great track record against the Jays, or in Toronto over the long term.
    I don’t get it. but… Buck has out managed me a time or two, so I will trust his choice. I have to imagine that Ubaldo’s ability and willingness to come out of the pen didn’t help his case to get the start. So, here’s my question:
    Tillman has a history of taking an inning or two to settle in. Do you think he is on a short leash tonight? If he gives up his typical 2 runs in the first, is he pulled the next time a runner gets on base? Can’t wait to find out how Big Sho handles things. Go O’s!

    • Creatively_19

      October 4, 2016 at 11:08 am

      I think you make a great point about Ubaldo coming out of the pen, something that Tillman isn’t used to doing. I believe that makes it easier to start Tillman with Ubaldo able to get ready quickly behind him. Yes, Tillman has the shortest leash ever. If he’s getting hit hard, even if they’re loud outs, look for Jiminez to come in after the first time through the order.

    • Dan Connolly

      October 4, 2016 at 7:52 pm

      I do. Its why Bundy and Ubaldo are in the pen

  5. Creatively_19

    October 4, 2016 at 11:05 am

    For $19.83, I’m gonna need a lot of Natty Bohs over here. Keep ’em coming!

    Before Tillman hit the DL earlier this season, I would have chosen him, no doubt. But strangely enough it was right about that time that Ubaldo found himself again and started to look like the Cy Young caliber pitcher the O’s signed a few years ago. Admittedly, I went on a statistics based rant from the bar earlier this year on why there’s no way I would start Ubaldo in Toronto. Last week he proved me wrong. However, I think despite recent success I’d still shy away from him in this must win game.

    Buck always expounds on how long his memory is. That cuts both ways though, as Tilly’s track record for the last 3 years shows that he’s been the consistent ace of the staff. Over that same time period Ubaldo has shown flashes of brilliance, but also a lot of inconsistency mixed in as well. While neither has been particularly successful in Toronto, it comes down to who’s earned this start the most. And while the choice is easy to second guess, hands down, I’d go with Tillman.

  6. 5brooks5

    October 4, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Tilly, gets the nod for me . He’s earned it, but let’s hope Buck has a quick hook if needed. That worries me after sticking with Miley tooooo long on Sat. But I trust Buck as always and I thought the post game celebration was great! No on field stuff, just a little silliness in the clubhouse,they needed that it’s a long season.

  7. bill-s

    October 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    I fell asleep after my birthday in July and just woke up. (Thanks for all those drink chits, Dan.) Glad to see the O’s are in, but sorry it’s just the second wild card. But wait, I don’t understand this crazy question…Tillman or Ubaldo??? Why would anyone even consider that?

    Seriously, I go Tillman, on a three-inch- long leash. And I thank the baseball gods for Ubaldo’s turnaround. Without it, we’d have nothing to watch tonight.

  8. Bancells Moustache

    October 5, 2016 at 8:32 am

    Well, I guess this one’s been settled. 🙁

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